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Yeah the point is that C-3PO has no reason to being there in any of the films between Return of the Jedi and the Rise of Skywalker. Take him out of TPM, AOTC, ROTS, TFA and TLJ and it would make no differens. So don't blame Johnson for that. He was at least funny in TLJ.

Die Hard + Die Hard 2 ... my annual festive season rewatch, on BluRay for the first time (thought it was about time for an upgrade, boxset of 1 - 4 was £12.95 inc. postage from eBay so not too bad). Because sometimes Xmas movies are better with gunfights, explosions and copious swearing.

That sounds very Hans. Who cares what it's for. It's a DC song right? Just throw it in there!

In Spielberg's defense, Tintin's books are far shorter than Harry Potter's and there isn't much of continuous story thread running through them, so I thought they did well to combine the books the way they did. It's not jarring to me at all and I have loved those books since I was a kid.

What about radically different treatment of earlier music? I recall finding this calm version of the Jaws theme so incredibly memorable back in theaters back in the 70's. It came out of nowhere in the film but was the B section of the Jaws theme with a completely different treatment not heard in the film before.

There's plenty of Newman fans on JWFan. Have any of you checked out this score yet? Much like Shore's latest, the album is only 20 minutes long! Water Tower music put it on youtube for free It's on Spotify too https://open.spotify.com/album/2ycFTGyjnzu5qB5xNgkOUt?si=9HBxdanrQZmi0r-UIiwVJw And Jon Burlingame wrote an article about it https://variety.com/2020/artisans/awards/thomas-newman-let-them-all-talk-score-1234853120/

Well this turned out more convincingly than I thought it would:

I liked it

Which is also why the Potter films had to seriously dumb down and simplify the stories by removing most of the narrative devices. And yet most of them either feel rushed (because they try to cram too much story into too little film) or drag (because they attempt to not rush by adding awkward character/exposition scenes that don't work half as well as the stuff they've dropped). Tintin is easily a better paced and balanced film than most of the Potters.

The Prize is Barsoom

Well, let's see: Part 1s: An Unexpected Journey is not a masterpiece, but it's a far superior film than that piece of boring crap called The Phantom Menace. As for the scores, as much as I like Shore's first Hobbit, I prefer TPM. Part 2s: I chose Desolation of Smaug as a movie, but my correct answer should've been "None Of Them They're All Shite". I chose Williams' score as well, DoS might be my least favorite Middle Earth score. Part 3s: Star Wars for both options. Revenge of the Sith is not great, but it's Citizen Kane when compared with the horrible Battle of the Five Armies.

Tintin is not exactly a masterpiece, but it's better than both BFG and Indy 4.

Setting The Trap

Easy: The Throne Room, The Jedi Steps and of course Yub Nub.

Sounds like what a Newman Ocean's score would sound like. The first track was sort of interesting to listen to once. Not for me.

Martin Freeman's small toe is more entertaining than the Star Wars prequels. The Hobbit has legitimately good actors, characters, and lines. Episodes I-III are high school plays.

1. The Force Awakens 2. The Rise of Skywalker 3. The Last Jedi 4. The Mandalorian good episodes 5. Solo 6 (last place). The Mandalorian Ahsoka episode

Maybe the right question should've been: "Prequels vs Hobbit: which movie has the most terrible dialogues and the worst use of CGI?"

Nah, it's not too much. It's a very nice, two hour main program spread over the first two discs. That's the main attraction of the release. Don't even take disc 3 out of the case until after you've listened to the main program a few times and like it. It's pretty much the normal bonus track assembly most expansions get, just on its own disc. Then disc 4 is just the original OST album for those who like that short presentation.

That's a low bar.

Haven't seen Solo and The Mandalorian, so I just need to copy-paste Chen's comment here which basically has the exact same order and ratings that I would give these movies.

First listen and absolutely loving it so far!

uhhhh no

I only use lossless files (ALAC in my case) for archival purposes. All my non-CD listening is done in AAC or MP3 format. In cases where I need to edit lossy files, I save them into AIFF format to avoid re-encoding and further quality loss.

An Unexpected Journey film and score Desolation of Smaug film and score Battle of the Five Armies film Revenge of the Sith score

Makes as much sense as most of your posts? 😜😝😊

Well, we've reached the fourth Sunday and the end of our journey. 7M7 Walking Home 7M7A O Holy Night 7M7B Star of Bethlehem - used the OST version which is the actual film take 7M7C Carol of The Bells - didn't recreate the exact film transition, instead faded this out in time for 8M6 to enter cleanly, so it can take center place. 8M6 Setting The Trap fits fine. For this one I followed the same pattern as for HA2 - leave the footage as is, separate all the little cues, space them out. Unfortunately I had to intervene for Paint Cans, had to shorten the footage in one place and lengthen it in others. Overall, 4 LLL tracks in 26 pieces over 13 minutes. 9M1+2 The Attack Begins 9M3 John Wayne Enters The Basement 9M4+5 A Hot Hand 9M6 / 10M1 Sore Head fit fine. 10M2 Paint Cans - some strange edits going on here, tried to keep up. 10M3 Clothesline Trapeze - partially unused but fits. The insert is noticeably edited in in the film audio if you pay attention to it, the quality/mix/stereo field changes. 10M4 Marley To The Rescue fits. 10M5 Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas - film version, fits. 11M1 The Next Morning 11M2 Mom Returns 11M3 Finale fit great. 11M4 We Wish You A Merry Christmas 11M4A End Credits - had to slow the credits way down to make them fit! alternates: Insertless original 10M3 Clothesline Trapeze - fits Instrumental Walking Home and early church sequence assembly before Star Of Betlehem was made into a carol too - fits O Holy Night alternate finale - fits.

Regarding the time when these movies were made I think it makes more sense to compare the SW prequels with the LotR trilogy and the Hobbit with the SW sequels.

There's another one, on Varese.

I think it’s more akin to Spielberg using the original recording of Desert Chase to score The Jungle Chase in KotCS. There’s quotes from Zimmer saying that they did use Beautiful Lie in the temp and he was trying to write a unique cue but they eventually settled on “well it’s the same cinematic universe and it’s a cue by me, so why not just use the same piece.”

A Busy Man

In Williams terms, this is like Spielberg asking him to re-record Here They Come for an action scene of an Indiana Jones movie, just because he liked the cue in the temp.

He's scouring Mandalorian TV spots to find hidden messages in voice-overs.

The Force Awakens (Great) Solo (Very good) The Mandalorian Season 2 (Very good) The Mandalorian Season 1 (Very good) The Rise Of Skywalker (Good) Rogue One (Good) The Last Jedi (Utterly awful)

LOL. This is true. If for no other reason, than it didn't take up a third of the film.

Yoda's theme in 'The Clash of the Lightsabers' as they all escape Cloud City. 1:38-1:58 The Dash Across No Man's Land in War Horse. It's the only action track in the film, but it fires on all cylinders. Blew me away when I saw it in theaters. 1:56 The Mecha Word - A.I. *edit, I guess the first one doesn't really count (although maybe it does because it's the first time we hear Yoda's Theme in an action sense?)

Also after listening through the Rarities while reading Doug's notes again... I always thought that early Sammath Naur here and on the OST was just a bland choral mush, but I suddenly just got what it's doing and now I love it and listened to it about 10 times since Tuesday.

Untrue, take Admiral Ackbar for example. OLD: YOUNG:

1/ THE LAST JEDI Er...um...that's about it, really. TFA is Star Wars' Greatest Hits. It adds nothing to the story, but it's fun. TROS is a complete mess. The best thing that I can say about TROS is that it seems to be cobbled together from two-plus hours of deleted scenes. I'm certain that somewhere, there is a decent film trying to get out. Haven't seen THE MADALORIAN. ROGUE ONE could be the best of the lot...but probably isn't. SOLO is plain embarrassing. This is what $4,000,000,000 laughing, sounds like.

Again that's a nice 85 minutes main program. Everything else is just a bonus you can elect to listen to, or just press stop after the end credits and skip them. You exaggerate way too much to make your points. EDIT: Oh, I see what you mean now. Well, 43 tracks for a catalog expansion of an old score makes sense to me, 42 tracks for a new OST album is surprising. However, please note that I was not complaining about it, simply surprised by it.

Seconded. Unless @Mattris is looking for signs in the bottom of a coffee mug (which wouldn't surprise me by this point), I fail to see any of his prophecies coming into fruition. Small wonder...

Just finished listening to the whole album and while there are some nice music missing (especially from chapter 15) is a really great presentation with the major highlights of each episode Dark Troopers and Activated are insane! Bobba's theme in Capture the Flag is so cool and badass. I love Ahsoka Lives with the recorder riff and the full rendition of Ahsoka's Theme And the end of the album is close to perfection and really emotional, building up tension and expectation with A Friend, releasing it and giving some closure with Open The Door, and then Come With Me serves as an excellent coda to not just the album but the whole season Goransson outdid himself with some of these tracks, especially in the last chapter. Also, I wonder who will composer The Book of Bobba Fett but it could be really cool that if it's not Goransson, whoever is uses Bobba's theme from The Mandalorian as it is so cool and fitting for his bad-ass persona

"Original" OST?

It is

The End Credits cue was recorded on the final day of recording sessions, the same day the revised sail barge assault cue ("The Return of the Jedi") and all the album concert arrangements ("Luke and Leia", "Parade of the Ewoks", "Jabba The Hutt", and "The Forest Battle') were recorded. You can hear the End Credits cue in full in the original 1983 movie, the original 1983 OST album, and disc 3 of the 1993 Arista box set. In all three spots, the final cue of the movie is still finishing up when the End Credits cue begins - they are overlapped, meaning the opening of the end credits is not available "clean" in any of these places. For the 1997 Special Edition version of the movie, the final cue of the movie is replaced with the new "Victory Celebration" cue, which for whatever reason John Williams did not end in the same key as the End Credits cue starts in, making a proper segue difficult. For the actual film, they did some pitch-shifting manipulation to pull off the standard transition. For the 1997 2CD set, they just kind of let the Victory Celebration cue finish up then start the End Credits cue right after. However, the conundrum was that there was no clean opening of the End Credits cue available to them. Why? Because the original recording masters from that final day of recording sessions were not located when making either expanded album, and as far as we know could still be missing to this day. This is why the 1997 set was unable to provide us the full "Jabba The Hutt" concert arrangement; The original 1983 OST album combined the beginning of the film cue "The Big Thaw" with the ending of the concert arrangement "Jabba The Hutt" to create the track "Han Solo Returns (at the Court of Jabba The Hutt)". On the 1993 Arista box set, the tracks "Han Solo Returns (At the Court of Jabba the Hutt)", "The Return of the Jedi", "Luke and Leia", "The Forest Battle", and "Ewok Celebration / Finale" all come directly off the 1983 album master. For the 1997 set, "The Return of the Jedi", "Luke and Leia", and "The Forest Battle", all come directly off the album master too, and the snippet of "Jabba The Hutt" is simply not included at all - they instead released the entire "The Big Thaw" cue as "Han Solo Returns". So back to the end credits cue, with the album master containing the end of the original finale cue mixed over the start of the end credits cue, they grabbed the Empire Strikes Back end credits cue (which they had the proper clean opening for) and used that until the point where the finale cue was no longer overlapping, and then segued from there into the rest of the ROTJ end credits cue, again taken off the album master. I hope that makes sense!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fcd5KxqAJO0dgQ8y1sHfd0o9eCeTSF7sbNFWORc805o/edit#gid=772006574

Yup, definitely sounds like he's planning to come to Europe next year again. Wow!

This might be a giveaway.

Fucking hell! I just spent 1.5 hours creating ROTS custom logos before I noticed my mistake...